Episode #60: The State of Songwriting

by The Future of What

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The ASCAP and BMI consent decree issue has put songwriters in the news this year, but we don’t hear a lot about how the profession has changed as a whole in recent years. To help us get a sense of what modern songwriting looks like, we talked to Kay Hanley (Letters to Cleo) and Michelle Lewis, founders of Songwriters of North America (SONA). SONA filed a lawsuit against the Department of Justice in September, which, as they say, is pretty punk rock. Michelle and Kay give us an update on the lawsuit and other issues facing songwriters today. We also talk to acclaimed songwriter Sue Ennis, who wrote over 70 songs with Heart.


Kay Hanley (SONA, Letters To Cleo)
Michelle Lewis (SONA)
Sue Ennis (Heart)


Dirt Bike Annie “Ode To The Go Cart”
Thoroughbred “If It’s Not Grounded Then It’s Not Dead”
Two Ton Boa “Porcelain Throne”


released December 2, 2016



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A radio program about the music and recording industry for industry insiders, outsiders, and outliers. Hosted by Kill Rock Stars president, Portia Sabin.

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